Why do we not use the reel with levelwider?
Reels like Shimano Conquest 300 and Daiwa Ryoga have the levelwider. You don’t need to worry about line management. But we hardly see slow pitch jiggers use them.
Why is it that the popular slow pitch reels like Ocea Jigger and Blue Heaven do not have this wonderful feature?
When selecting your reel to start slow pitch jigging, you may stumble on this.
There are 3 reasons why jigging reels do not have levelwinder.
A monster fish can easily break the level wider or damage your line pretty badly during the fight. That is the biggest challenge in this game, and also the biggest excitement, that you may get a 30kg+ monster on the same tackle you are catching 1kg fish. You just never know.
You may get a lot of friction on your line by the levelwinder. You should be sensitive about it when you are in the tug of war with a monster on the light line. Especially in the kind of fight style of slow pitch, in which you point the tip down and don’t pump the rod to fight, the spool is where all the tension comes to directly. You would not want such a little thing that can curve the line so steeply.
The friction can be intense. I’ve seen a couple of people breaking the level winder in the big fight myself.
There are some reels that synchronizes the level winder and the spool even when the spool drags out the line. so that the level winder is always inline with with the line is loaded on the spool.
But this is just one extra function to the reel. It needs more parts and designing in the tiny reel case. You would want everything dedicated to the good power, good speed, and good drag in the simplest structure for the maximum and trouble free performance in the reel.
We are constantly feeling a lot of information from the line. We are not touching the line directly, but we are gathering information from the guides and spool to see how much tension is coming and how it’s changing. You change something and it shows in the information from the line. That communication becomes pretty intense especially when you have a big fish on the line. And that little thing between you and the fish is nothing but a disturbance when a lifetime opportunity is on the line.
Having a level winder in a highly dedicated jigging reel is like having a car stereo in a F1 racer. When you are paying full attention to the stirring wheel, information from the tires and the engine sounds, the car audio would get on your nerve and you can’t turn it off.
What would you take all these risks for? So that you can rest your thumb to manage the line while fighting? Come on. Get real.
The line management is not that hard. Even during the fight. Fish can not run flat-out for a long time, and there’s always time that you have a little margin to manage your line as you reel in. Especially if you fight in a point-down SPJ fight style.
In slow pitch jigging, we compromise a lot of strength of the tackle in order to HOOK the fish. We use light line, light hooks, small rings, and highly-resilient thin (= easy to break) blanks. We have very little margin when it comes to the fish fight. That is why we are so specific about the knots for maximum strength, and specific about fighting application and strategy for the effectiveness.
The levelwider would just be one extra worry that is totally unnecessary for most slow pitch anglers.
Sato Sensei does sometimes use Ocea Conquest 300. This reel does have the synchronizing feature.
He uses this reel only when he is targeting small bottom fish in the shallow. He does all kinds of tricks. For example, he uplifts fast 3 cranks, drops back down as he counts, and repeats this. He is searching for the difference of the count. If it changes, there’s a hole or a rise, some kind of structure of the bottom, where you are likely to find fish. This is one of his strategies to catch a fish when nobody else is catching. When he does many little things like this, and when he doesn’t expect a big fish, the levelwinder is a convenient tool as you don’t have to worry about the line management. And Ocea Conquest is just one of a dozen reels he brings in on the boat…
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I have gone through your webpage for a couple of days but still cant decide on my purchas3 of a slow pitch set up.
Set up is mainly going be use in 40m -60m depth on non anchored boat.
Target fishing 3kg to 10kg.
Jig range 40g to 120g.
Set up in mind
1) Rod :EG PSLJ 603-2
Reel :Ocea conquest 200HG
2) Rod : EG PSLJ 603-3
Reel : Ocea Jigger 1500HG
Your recommendation is much appreciated.
If you are free-drifting, your jigs may be too light to stay in vertical. That is hi-speed jigging range, in which you don’t have to be so vertical.
I would recommend 120g to 200g, or sometimes even heavier.
603-2 would be too light. 603-3 or 603-4. 603-4 if you want to stay with slow pitch jigging for various conditions. 603-3 if you want to just forget slow pitch and switch to hi-speed jigging in tough conditions. OJ1500HG is a much safer choice.
How about the Ocea Conquest 301 HG? any comments on that reel? Jig at 100 meter below waters and 200G Jig is it good?
Ocea Conquest 301HG is a great reel. Sato-Sensei loves it, in the shallow water for small targets.
But if you are 100m deep, and not on a controlled drift to keep you vertical, the reel may be too small for you. I would get OJ2000NR-HG.
Can you give me some review on the ocea conquest 200hg? What kind of game is it suitable for? And it does not have the synchro function. I
Ocea Conquest 300HG will be suitable for slow pitch jigging in the shallow. But 200HG is too small. It’s a good reel. Good for bait fishing, tenya, inchiku, and micro jigging. Any light game.
Thanks totos!! Understood
hi totos, can Saltiga BJ200SHL use for slow jigging? that reel got levelwinder
This reel is designed for Tai Rubber, in which you need steady retrieve and do not need torqueful reeling to dance the jig. Retrieves 81cm max per crank. I assume this reel can do slow pitch jigging in the shallow.
ok Totos, so thats mean, not suitable for slow jig deep fishing. is that correct?
Yes. You can try if you have this kind of reel already.
But if you are buying one, choose the one without.
I just purchased a ocea jigger 63-5. I’m think thinking of pairing with a Ocea Jigger F custom 3000HG over 2000 for more line.
Anchoring in over 120 feet of water.
What size hooks?
Gram of lure 250?
What knot works best?
What is best?
What leader is best?
I’ve never fished this style but I can’t get enough of watching the Shimano masters videos even when they are in Japanese.
You are anchored… There’s no way to do vertical jigging from an anchored boat.
Is it your boat? Or are you on a party boat? You should look for a boat which free-drifts at least.
The whole ocean is moving. Ideally, you should be moving with the current too. But the free-drifting boat is pushed by the wind, and that’s why some boats in the world try different ways to cancel the wind so that the boat can drift with the ocean, which means you stay vertical with the jig.
You should study more about staying vertical so that you can choose the best boat possible.
Also reading your questions, I think you should study more about the set-up category too.